What if the reason you haven’t reached your next level isn’t your strategy, work ethic, or business model—but something deeper operating beneath the surface?
In this episode of Trust This, host Joe Seagle sits down with Curtis McCullom to explore what many high-performing entrepreneurs experience but rarely articulate: hidden internal blind spots. These subconscious beliefs, patterns, and emotional imprints—often formed early in life—can quietly limit income, confidence, leadership capacity, and forward momentum.
This conversation breaks down why traditional goal-setting often fails when the subconscious mind is still running outdated programming. Curtis explains the key distinction between “outside-in” coaching, which focuses on tactics and objectives, and “inside-out” transformation, which addresses root causes. Together, Joe and Curtis discuss how entrepreneurs can tell the difference between a true business challenge and a mindset block—and why the two are frequently interconnected.
You’ll also hear a clear overview of Curtis’s LGET Mindset™ framework:
Learn: Gaining awareness of how the subconscious mind drives behavior and performance
Grow: Releasing what no longer serves you, including limiting beliefs, emotional weight, and old narratives
Expand: Aligning decisions, actions, and goals from a stronger internal foundation
Transform: Creating lasting change through consistent mental conditioning and daily practices
The episode dives into real-world examples such as self-sabotage, imposter syndrome, repeated plateaus, and why some entrepreneurs continue to hit the same invisible ceiling despite investing in courses, mentors, and systems. Curtis also explains how modalities like NLP, Hypnotherapy, and Mental Emotional Release® (MER) help clients access deeper mental layers to uncover root causes and create lasting transformation.
Watch the full episode of Trust This to learn how to identify what’s truly holding you back—and how to unlock the next level that’s already within you.
About Curtis McCullom
Curtis McCullom helps CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs eliminate the blind spots that have silently held them back since childhood—unlocking greater income, confidence, and personal freedom. Through his LGET Mindset™ framework (Learn, Grow, Expand, Transform) and powerful modalities like NLP, Mental Emotional Release® (MER), and Hypnotherapy, he facilitates deep subconscious reprogramming for lasting change. As the host of The Curtis McCullom Show, he shares insights from top leaders on success, mindset, and personal growth. Your next level is already within you—Curtis helps you unlock it.
Connect with Curtis
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/curtis.mccullom/
Website: https://www.bespokehumanpotentialcoaching.com/\
Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/is/podcast/the-legit-l-g-e-t-mindset-podcast/id1772358486
Show Transcript:
Joe Seagle:
Hey everybody, and welcome back to another edition of Trust This. Today we’re going to have a Master Series podcast with Curtis McCullom. Curtis helps CEOs, founders, and entrepreneurs eliminate the blind spots that have silently held them back since childhood—unlocking greater income, confidence, and personal freedom through his LGET Mindset framework: Learn, Grow, Expand, Transform, and modalities like NLP.
Joe Seagle:
Through mental and emotional release and hypnotherapy, Curtis helps clients reprogram subconscious blocks for deep, lasting transformation. As the host of The Curtis McCullom Show, he shares insights from top leaders on success, mindset, and personal growth. His belief is that your next level is already within you—and Curtis helps you unlock it. His website is bespokehumanpotentialcoaching.com, and his Instagram is @curtis.mccullom (two Cs, two Ls, O-M). His podcast, of course, is The Curtis McCullom Show. We’ll put links down below.
Joe Seagle:
Today, I just want to talk with Curtis, pick his brain about what he does, how he does it, and what some of these concepts really mean—like the LGET Mindset, mental and emotional release, and hypnotherapy. We’re going to get into all of that. So Curtis, why don’t you tell us a little bit about what you do first, and then we’ll dive into some questions.
Curtis McCullom:
First of all, thank you, Joe, for having me on your show. I think we’re going to have a great time today. What I do—because we were joking a little about coaching and how many different types of coaches are out there—the only reason I use the word “coaching” is because that’s what people associate with it. I think what I do goes deeper than that.
Curtis McCullom:
Most coaches work from the outside in. They ask cognitively what your goals and dreams are. What I do is go inside and ask, “What is actually blocking you from becoming the best version of yourself?” I want to identify the root causes. We need to till the soil and build a strong foundation before layering goal-setting and vision on top.
Curtis McCullom:
One of the main things I help people do is eliminate blind spots—areas in their lives that are preventing them from becoming who they really want to be.
Joe Seagle:
So how did you get into this? How did you discover this was what you wanted to do and where you fit best?
Curtis McCullom:
That’s a great question. I started this journey over 35 years ago when I went into sales. Back then, I wanted to be a motivational speaker or sales trainer—people like Tom Hopkins, Zig Ziglar, Jim Rohn, and Tony Robbins were just starting out. I studied them, listened to tapes, recordings, and that’s what I wanted to become.
Curtis McCullom:
I started in sales and became number one in the company in less than a year and a half, using hypnotherapy and mindset techniques. But it didn’t happen the way I expected. I joke that it was like the biblical story of wandering in the wilderness for 40 years.
Curtis McCullom:
It took me about 35 years to reach where I am now. I retired from financial services and then went fully into coaching using hypnotherapy, neuro-linguistic programming, and mental and emotional release.
Joe Seagle:
I agree with you—most coaches focus on the outside. It sounds like you go much deeper, into the brain and neuroscience. How did you get into hypnotherapy?
Curtis McCullom:
That started when I was going for number one. I studied a mentor’s recordings and did sleep programming called Ultra Monetary Success. A friend introduced me to hypnotherapy, and I loved meditation and working with the mind.
Curtis McCullom:
Hypnotherapy is a natural state we enter every 90 minutes. I help people go into trance on purpose, with purpose, bypassing the critical mind and entering a flow state. Later, when I tried executive coaching, I realized it wasn’t me. I became certified as a clinical hypnotherapist, a master NLP practitioner, and trained in mental and emotional release.
Curtis McCullom:
That’s when everything came together into what I now call the LGET Mindset: Learn, Grow, Expand, Transform.
Joe Seagle:
So explain those stages. What does Learn, Grow, Expand, and Transform actually mean?
Curtis McCullom:
Learning is about understanding the subconscious mind. Only about 5% of our mind is conscious—logic, willpower, goal-setting. The other 95% is subconscious. That’s where beliefs, patterns, and blind spots live.
Curtis McCullom:
We uncover what’s in that 95% that’s blocking the goals set by the conscious 5%. Growing is about letting go—releasing limiting beliefs, negative emotions, anger, guilt, sadness—what I call baggage. We often do this in a one-day mindset reset.
Curtis McCullom:
Expansion is where goal-setting comes in, but now aligned with new beliefs. Without releasing old beliefs, people hit walls. Expansion means inspired action based on new behaviors.
Curtis McCullom:
Transformation is about conditioning the change. I create bespoke daily mental supplements—short customized recordings clients listen to daily. Change can happen quickly, but conditioning makes it permanent.
Joe Seagle:
Do people ever get stuck in one of these stages?
Curtis McCullom:
Rarely, because we work at the root. Think of a tree—we nourish the roots, not the leaves. That gives people better resources to handle challenges as they grow.
Curtis McCullom:
Each new level brings fear. The process repeats: What can I learn? How can I grow? How do I expand? How do I transform again?
Joe Seagle:
That reminds me of “name it to tame it.” Most people don’t have those internal tools.
Curtis McCullom:
Exactly. Emotions are messages that want to communicate and leave. If we allow ourselves to feel them instead of pushing them down, we can move forward faster.
Joe Seagle:
I’ve experienced that with back pain—once I identify what I’m carrying emotionally, the pain often disappears.
Curtis McCullom:
That’s exactly how the subconscious works. Once it learns what it needs, it releases the energy. When inspiration comes—make the call, take the action—do it immediately.
Joe Seagle:
What are some examples of things people uncover that were holding them back?
Curtis McCullom:
I’ll use myself. A few months ago, despite helping clients achieve breakthroughs, I felt stuck. I asked myself “what,” not “why,” and the answer was, “Success is hard and difficult.”
Curtis McCullom:
In a release session, I traced that belief back to age two. Later, my mother confirmed that potty training me had been “hard and difficult.” That belief stayed with me subconsciously. Once released, everything opened up.
Joe Seagle:
Is that where self-sabotage and imposter syndrome come from?
Curtis McCullom:
Yes. Somewhere, a belief like “I’m not good enough” was accepted. We identify the root cause, release it, and replace it with a new learning.
Joe Seagle:
How can entrepreneurs tell the difference between a business problem and a mindset problem?
Curtis McCullom:
Often, they overlap. A block is only a problem if it prevents you from moving forward. If it stops progress, it’s worth addressing.
Joe Seagle:
Do some people believe they can’t change because “this is just who I am”?
Curtis McCullom:
If someone believes that, it becomes true for them. I don’t see people as broken—just unable to access their internal resources yet.
Joe Seagle:
That sounds perfect for entrepreneurs who feel stuck.
Curtis McCullom:
Exactly. That’s who comes to me. We start with a one-day mindset reset to clear the baggage, then begin coaching.
Joe Seagle:
Have you noticed differences between people who grow and those who plateau?
Curtis McCullom:
Those who grow acknowledge issues and keep moving forward. They’re persistent. Their mindset is different.
Joe Seagle:
Sounds pragmatic—deal with what is and move on.
Curtis McCullom:
Exactly.
Joe Seagle:
Before we wrap up, who helped you aspire to a better life?
Curtis McCullom:
Napoleon Hill. Think and Grow Rich mirrors much of my work—subconscious mind, fear, persistence. It’s foundational for me.
Joe Seagle:
Wonderful. Thank you so much for joining us today. We’ll include links below to bespokehumanpotentialcoaching.com and The Curtis McCullom Show. Everyone, be sure to subscribe and like.
Joe Seagle:
Until next time—thanks for listening, and trust this.
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